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brennan, is that they were the ones directly above you. mr. mclaughlin is quoted in the press as saying he never heard from you. and he doesn't doubt that you did this, but he says that he never heard from you. we have not seen anybody who has come forward and said that they heard objections from you with respect to these programs. moving on, your boss at the cia said that you had a role in setting the parameters of the program, and i quote, "helping to seek justice department approval for the techniques." he went to say that the job would have been part and parcel with that process. how does that purport that you had no role in the programs in the execution or oversight? >> i respectfully disagree with my colleague. and the wall street journal article, he goes onto say that i was not involved in many elements of the program. but i was not involved in the establishment of the program. i had awareness that the agency was going to do this and going forward on it, and i had access into the activities there, but i wasn't involved in any management
brennan, is that they were the ones directly above you. mr. mclaughlin is quoted in the press as saying he never heard from you. and he doesn't doubt that you did this, but he says that he never heard from you. we have not seen anybody who has come forward and said that they heard objections from you with respect to these programs. moving on, your boss at the cia said that you had a role in setting the parameters of the program, and i quote, "helping to seek justice department approval for...
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brennan. mr. vice chairman, please proceed. >> thank you very much. mr. brennan, i join the chair in congratulating you on your nomination. welcoming you to the committee today. and i don't have to remind you because you are a career individual of the importance of your nomination to head the central intelligence agency. i also want to welcome your family and thank them for their support of you during your years of commitment to our government. also want to say as the chairman did that how much we appreciate mike morel and i'm very pleased to see that in your prepared statement you mention mike and his contribution to the central intelligence agency and that you intend to keep mike in place. he is a very valued public servant and a guy who's stepped in to very difficult situation now twice and has led with great leadership and provided the agency with what was needed. it will be your responsibility if confirmed to lead the cia as our nation continues to face significant national security challenges. while we have heard a lot in recent months about al qaed
brennan. mr. vice chairman, please proceed. >> thank you very much. mr. brennan, i join the chair in congratulating you on your nomination. welcoming you to the committee today. and i don't have to remind you because you are a career individual of the importance of your nomination to head the central intelligence agency. i also want to welcome your family and thank them for their support of you during your years of commitment to our government. also want to say as the chairman did that...
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mr. brennan, welcome. thank you for your long history of public service and to your family, thank you for your willingness to put up with his hobby. most if not all of the intelligence that our committee receives is the finished analysis that's derived from source reports and other raw intelligence materials that we don't see and i might say we don't need to see all of. in order to ensure that we can perform our oversight duties of the intelligence committee, would you agree that the committee should be able to review all analytical product if requested? >> on the face of that question, yes. my answer would be question but i have to take a look at the issues involved in terms of, nlg, what are we talking about in terms of okay ses analytical information? your intention and what i think your objective is, i fully support in terms of making sure this committee has the breadth of analytical expertise available from the agency. >> as we go forward, there may be times the committee needs the raw intelligence to
mr. brennan, welcome. thank you for your long history of public service and to your family, thank you for your willingness to put up with his hobby. most if not all of the intelligence that our committee receives is the finished analysis that's derived from source reports and other raw intelligence materials that we don't see and i might say we don't need to see all of. in order to ensure that we can perform our oversight duties of the intelligence committee, would you agree that the committee...
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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff.
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally undone by the american people. most people do not think about that -- totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from...
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welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages. i will pour out my frustration on dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations trying to get information. why was it they felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why was it they were willing to talk to pat roberts, me, saxby chambliss, dianne feinstein, but not anybody else? until we literally bludgeoned them, diane and i, to include everybody. it is amazing. i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the presiden
welcome, mr. brennan. if confirmed, you will lead an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services, most of them totally unknown by the american people. most people do not think about that. most of us in public service want everything we do to be known. it is how we got elected. it is very different than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i want to move from ieit to the enhanced interrogation techniques. you talk about the 6000 pages....
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how does the white house feel about how things went with mr. brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are injured. this hearing for mr. brennan also sort of placated a lot of democrats on that committee because the white house released papers from the department of justice explaining the legal rationale behind the drone strikes. so overall, the feel something that john brennan performed admirably, that he will move forward and he will be a good director of the cia. they felt that the committee hearing went as well as it could be. what's interesting, martin, john brennan has 25 years experience at the cia and that's really what we've heard. he's the most experienced person to take
how does the white house feel about how things went with mr. brennan? >> reporter: well, talking to folks, the democrats here in d.c., there is a lot of confidence in brennan's performance because it's the complete opposite of hagel. they felt brennan looked self-assured. he gave a spirited defense to the administration's policies and most importantly he was also humble. he said there should be more information put forward in terms of when these drone strikes occur if civilians are...
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mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is the answer or to you think? >> i do not understand, because that will not be a request coming to me. >> i understand, so my direction to you, at what i ask you, is that you review that. we will get you the and -- we will get youppi if necessary., efficient ca alice told us it was detainee information that was key to them finding the courier and bin laden. were you briefed by any of the analysts who track down bin laden? >> before the operation? but yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> is that the information given to you, that it came from interrog
mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is...
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. >> reporter: late wednesday, mr. obama directed that the house and senate intelligence committees be given a classified memo on drone strikes abroad. it lays out the legal rationale for targeting american terrorism suspects. brennan has helped manage the program. oregon democrat ron wyden had pressed for release of the memo. he went directly to the issue during his first pass at questioning brennan. >> what should be done next to ensure that public conversation about drones so american people are brought into debate and have full understand what rules the government is going to observe when it conducts targeted killings. >> this hearing is one of the i think there is a misimpression on some of the am people that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there is no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there's an understanding, and the
. >> reporter: late wednesday, mr. obama directed that the house and senate intelligence committees be given a classified memo on drone strikes abroad. it lays out the legal rationale for targeting american terrorism suspects. brennan has helped manage the program. oregon democrat ron wyden had pressed for release of the memo. he went directly to the issue during his first pass at questioning brennan. >> what should be done next to ensure that public conversation about drones so...
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., mr. john brennan. he said, quote, hezbollah started out as purely a terrorist organization back in the early 1980's and has evolved significantly over time . and now it has members of parliament, in the cabinet, lawyers, doctors, others who are part of the hezbollah organization and so quite frankly i'm pleased to see that a lot of hezbollah individuals are in fact renouncing that type of terrorism and violence and are trying to participate in the political process in lebanon in a very legitimate fashion. they have not sworn off violence in lebanon. they have not sworn off violence in egypt, in syria, as we well know, in libya, albania, tuesday nearbyia -- tunesia, even in african nations further south. i said before, expressed my concern that this administration by helping them, encouraging them to overthrow this nation's ally, president mubarak, express concerns before it was done about giving military assistance to people that we knew, including al qaeda, to joe throw a man who had blood on his hand
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brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods and the drone program what in your view what his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable four years previous speaks most of his involvement in torture and rendition of about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is now acceptable the close he engages in a program of murder and the goodness of the murder outweighs the bad news of the torture and this is actually how people think and how they talk that murdering people is or legal more acceptable more moral and just really then capturing people in torturing them as if anyone is captured must be tortured and so forth and as if we must have a ground war anywhere we don't have a drone war but this is out there thinking and it is absolutely revolting there there are many americans who do object but we're in a minority well they have had harsh words for sure but
brennan is of course known for methods that have frankly enraged and even alienated many of america's allies especially when we're talking about interrogation methods and the drone program what in your view what his approval his confirmation in the senate mean for washington's foreign policy it would mean that someone who was deemed unacceptable four years previous speaks most of his involvement in torture and rendition of about which we've learned nothing but additional negative information is...
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mr. brennan, that is your shop. do you have any knowledge about why senator graham's question was not to be answered? >> there is a longstanding tradition understanding of respecting the executive privilege that exists in the presidency in terms of what information is provided to the president or advice, counsel, to him. i would suspect that that question gets into this issue of the executive privilege which i think again has been a long standing tradition. >> are you sure that is the answer or do you think? >> i do not understand, because that will not be a request coming to me. >> i understand, so my direction to you, at what i ask you, is that you review that. we will get you the and notation, if necessary. secretary panetta told us it was detainee information that was key to them finding the courier and bin laden. were you briefed by any of the analysts who tracked down bin laden? >> before the operation? >> yes. >> yes, absolutely. >> is that the information given to you, that it came from interrogation of deta
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thank you mr. brennan, for your testimony today. i think what we've heard from a number of colleagues and we had this discussion when we discussed the committee study. how could be confirmed -- i'm not sure the c.i.a. director is going to be well-informed. particularly to -- we have questioned you about a number of key sensitive programs. the agency is in a lot of these programs that there needs to be some ability to measure objectively the success of these programs not by the individuals that are implementing the programs. this is not the setting to talk about the individual programs. what i'm interested in or pursuing the conversation that we started about how we might set up systems to the best extent possible as the c.i.a. director you're going to make sure what is going on, get an accurate objective review and not have the information that bumps up to the system. >> that is an excellent point. in other words to have an objective order measures of effectiveness you want to be able to evaluate the program. you cannot have the ind
thank you mr. brennan, for your testimony today. i think what we've heard from a number of colleagues and we had this discussion when we discussed the committee study. how could be confirmed -- i'm not sure the c.i.a. director is going to be well-informed. particularly to -- we have questioned you about a number of key sensitive programs. the agency is in a lot of these programs that there needs to be some ability to measure objectively the success of these programs not by the individuals that...
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i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branches of government? we don't want to just trust one branch with this awesome power." >> i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared to be at war, is the following. i would also like to know what he thinks the line is between assassinating, target killings extra, outside of the united states and within the united states? is there actually a line that can be drawn? what if there was a foreign person within the united states? does the authority that is invested in the obama administration is claiming, does that allow them to kill people within the united states who are foreign? does it allow them to kill people within the united states who are u.s. citizens? there's
i would like to ask mr. brennan, "have you considered putting forth with congress the idea of perhaps legislating in this area, having a regularized system that involves other branches of government? we don't want to just trust one branch with this awesome power." >> i would love for john brennan to answer the following question. the legal justification for us to drop bombs in places that, like yemen and places like pakistan and north africa, places at which we are not declared...
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underlying the whole thing, which mr. brennan was referring to, is that they have put together so many other processes procedures. they have a play both. this is another secret documents that we are not sure has been officially approved. it has been worked on for months and months without the input of congress. we are not asking for every last detail of these programs to be released. the american public and the rest of the world has a right to know what the basic rules that are applying. john talked about the internal process. from newspaper reports, it sounds like there is a lot of input and discussion that goes on among the agencies. it is good to have that kind of discussion. if there is an internal process, people have a right to know. we are not asking for every operational detail of every attack. the basic rules -- letting people know what the rules are in keeping those rules stable is fundamental to that. host: john bellinger, how much do the american people need to know about targeted killings and how much goes on
underlying the whole thing, which mr. brennan was referring to, is that they have put together so many other processes procedures. they have a play both. this is another secret documents that we are not sure has been officially approved. it has been worked on for months and months without the input of congress. we are not asking for every last detail of these programs to be released. the american public and the rest of the world has a right to know what the basic rules that are applying. john...
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>>steve: it is mr. brennan's appearance before this committee today for his confirmation that lawmakers feel if we're ever going to get answers regarding the program, it's now. that's why it is extraordinary and probably a little coincidental that they would go ahead and relent and release it to the lawmakers today. >>brian: here's what's good about it. we're going to get real questions from both sides rather than what a great guy you are, what a horrible person you are, and speech making. wur going to get both sides probing john brennan in a respectful way, i believe, to legitimize some of the tactics when he was working counterterror for the center. charles krauthammer looks at constitutional hurdles and why in some ways this could be challenging. >> they want to pretend you can only hit an american al qaeda operative who is an imminent threat and define him in a threat out of existence by sayinal qaeda is continually hatching plots, so he's always, all day and all night, an imminent threat, i.e., tha
>>steve: it is mr. brennan's appearance before this committee today for his confirmation that lawmakers feel if we're ever going to get answers regarding the program, it's now. that's why it is extraordinary and probably a little coincidental that they would go ahead and relent and release it to the lawmakers today. >>brian: here's what's good about it. we're going to get real questions from both sides rather than what a great guy you are, what a horrible person you are, and speech...
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. >> mr. john brennan. >> reporter: when president obama's pick for cia director heads to capitol hill today for his confirmation hearing, it's some in the president's own party that are threatening to hold up john brennan's nomination. oregon democrat senate other ron wyden telling reporters he would pull out all the stops to get answers about the legality of targeting americans involved with al qaeda overseas. in written answers to committee questions, brennan didn't address killing americans, but insisted all targeting is made on a case by case basis. >> senator wyden was trying to find out that basic information. and has been denied that. so you know, the most basic questions about a program that john brennan has been the architect of and the orchestrator of for four years, the most basic details of it have been withheld. >> reporter: it's just one controversy brennan faces at his confirmation hearing. there's his role in administration leaks about covert operations, like the cyberattack o
. >> mr. john brennan. >> reporter: when president obama's pick for cia director heads to capitol hill today for his confirmation hearing, it's some in the president's own party that are threatening to hold up john brennan's nomination. oregon democrat senate other ron wyden telling reporters he would pull out all the stops to get answers about the legality of targeting americans involved with al qaeda overseas. in written answers to committee questions, brennan didn't address...
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the issue is likely to come up again as mr. brennan faces his confirmation hearing to be director of the c.i.a. you can hear live coverage of the senate intelligence committee hearing tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. eastern time. that's february 7. listen to it hear on c-span radio. and this just in from the associated press, president obama is planning to nominate business executive sally jewel to lead the interior department. the financially struggling u.s. postal service says it plans to stop delivering mail on saturdays, but it will continue delivering packages six days a week. the service is expected to say the cut, beginning in august, would mean a cost savings of about $2 billion annually. the move accentuates one of the agency's strong points. package delivery has increased by 14% since 2010. the delivery of letters and other mail has declined with the increasing use of email and other internet use. postmaster general and c.e.o. patrick donahoe is set to make an announcement this morning. c-span is covering the event. you canner
the issue is likely to come up again as mr. brennan faces his confirmation hearing to be director of the c.i.a. you can hear live coverage of the senate intelligence committee hearing tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. eastern time. that's february 7. listen to it hear on c-span radio. and this just in from the associated press, president obama is planning to nominate business executive sally jewel to lead the interior department. the financially struggling u.s. postal service says it plans to stop...
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walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i called it torture and i said that torture was official policy that's on the one side on the other side the cia had told us internally at the time that it was working what year was that that was in two thousand to two thousand and three they were telling us that it was working we now know from the inspector general's report that was released in the spring of two thousand and nine that that was a lie that the cia was lying even to those of us inside the cia and i think it was just to protect themselves and to protect the policy but it never worked did you have a personal experience related to torture
walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i...
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, someone like michele flournoy or ash carter, then, of course, we would all be paying attention to mr. brennan who is the nominee to be director of central intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the heft and the right ironically. so if we could just talk about what the implications of this are, and i'm going to try and put these two questions together, actually, and to digress and explain this question a little better, many of us who work in foreign policy studied history because that's what draws you in. and in the old days polysci and ir were fields that weren't exactly embraced as they are now, and for those of us who did study history, a hot remember that all these inconsequential and rather interesting countries whether it was the czechoslovakias or malis of the time were the precursors to larger battles that could have been dealt with had they been dealt with early. i wonder if just sort of thinking through that prism where we see things going, but maybe take the nominees, and i'm going to just throw it open and see who grabs the mic first. tom. >
, someone like michele flournoy or ash carter, then, of course, we would all be paying attention to mr. brennan who is the nominee to be director of central intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the heft and the right ironically. so if we could just talk about what the implications of this are, and i'm going to try and put these two questions together, actually, and to digress and explain this question a little better, many of us who work in foreign policy...
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. >> and mr. brennan, who is going to be having a hearing later today that i won't be attending. i consider him to be one of the foremost intelligence experts around with twenty or twenty five years experience. would you agree with that? >> yes, indeed. >> he stated to me and will state again this afternoon the same thing you just said. that we realized at that moment it was a planned terrorist attack. now, the only question i want to ask you i'll ask you for an answer now and i doubt if you'll have a good answer. but after that i'd like to have you think about it and give an answer for the record. that is with everyone agreeing including the secretary clinton that right after this took place, that was in fact a planned terrorist attack. how in the world could ambassador rice say, quote, the information this is five days later -- the information the best information and the best assessment we have to date is that in fact this was not a preplained premeditated attack. >> no. again, i mean, i was not involved in the talking points. that were presented to her. obviously the intellig
. >> and mr. brennan, who is going to be having a hearing later today that i won't be attending. i consider him to be one of the foremost intelligence experts around with twenty or twenty five years experience. would you agree with that? >> yes, indeed. >> he stated to me and will state again this afternoon the same thing you just said. that we realized at that moment it was a planned terrorist attack. now, the only question i want to ask you i'll ask you for an answer now and...
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i think there -- it would be worthwhile, if you are confirmed, to meet with mr. brennan to talk about coordination between the two agencies so do not end up with similar if not identical functions in different regions of the world with different command structures, rules of engagement, etc. -- counter- terrorism covers the gap or the relationship between traditional defense and the intelligence committee. -- community. >> that is an area that is becoming more relevant and complicated. title and reverses title 50. -- title n versus title 50. >> final thought -- but not think we can adequately assess the size and importance of the cyber threat. that may well be the war of the future. my sense is that we are not -- we are all talking about it, but i am not sure we have a sense of urgency. and the secretary panetta has increased our proposed increase of that capacity. people can die, and their society could be brought to a standstill without our rocket ever taking off or are planned and treating our airspace. i hope that will be a point of emphasis, because i think t
i think there -- it would be worthwhile, if you are confirmed, to meet with mr. brennan to talk about coordination between the two agencies so do not end up with similar if not identical functions in different regions of the world with different command structures, rules of engagement, etc. -- counter- terrorism covers the gap or the relationship between traditional defense and the intelligence committee. -- community. >> that is an area that is becoming more relevant and complicated....
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so far, so good for mr. brennan. but the drone has become the hot issue, because the obama administration has kind of changed positions in the last couple of years about, you know, tactics. >> a little worrisome. that's for sure. >>> well, the dream of luxury living is over for a squatter in south florida. andre barbosa had taken over this foreclosed boca raton mansion, claiming an archaic law called adverse possession. but the bank of america, which owns the multimillion dollar property, had him evicted. the bank even had the locks changed and posted a 24-hour guard just to make sure the place remains unoccupied. >> this story should entertain you guys. a man in tennessee has quit his maintenance job after being linked with the number 666 through his employer several times. first walter received id badge number 666. another work issued document also included the so-called number of the beast. and the final straw was his recent w-2 form, when it included 666. he knew then he simply had to go. >> don't accept any pape
so far, so good for mr. brennan. but the drone has become the hot issue, because the obama administration has kind of changed positions in the last couple of years about, you know, tactics. >> a little worrisome. that's for sure. >>> well, the dream of luxury living is over for a squatter in south florida. andre barbosa had taken over this foreclosed boca raton mansion, claiming an archaic law called adverse possession. but the bank of america, which owns the multimillion dollar...
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walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i called it torture and i said that torture was official policy that's on the one side on the other side the cia had told us internally at the time that it was working what year was that that was in two thousand to two thousand and three they were telling us that it was working we now know from the inspector general's report that was released in the spring of two thousand and nine that that was a lie that the cia was lying even to those of us inside the cia and i think it was just to protect themselves and to protect the policy but it never worked. did you have a personal experience related to tortur
walking on the edge of the law you worked with him i did i worked with john brennan for many years and i know him pretty well mr could happen you yourself supported torture before you were against it what happened what changed your position well let me correct you on that and this is something that that i think most americans missed in my original n.b.c. interview i was trying to draw a distinction between whether torture was right and wrong or whether it worked i believed it was wrong and i...
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do you agree, mr. secretary agree, mr. secretary, it was an attack on the annex? >> i said it was three days. >> that is what john brennan said also been used unequivocably. sometimes someone has to ask the question, if that was true with this presentation by susan rice, before all of america is the fact was it was not a preplanned or premeditated attack. i will not ask you to respond to that the people understand everybody knew that it was free planned and premeditated attack. >> senator reid. >> hq secretary, as you point* out there were two attacks one of the compound and one on the annex. but the time chart indicates there is a significant gap on the first at midnight and the appointment of mortars and rpg's did that indicate it took awhile to organize themselves to conduct a full blown attack that that with general dempsey they seized an opportunity then supplement the firepower coordinating attacks suggesting there was improvisation with the planning? >> the second was much more deliberate and planned and opportunistic because the people who moved from the f
do you agree, mr. secretary agree, mr. secretary, it was an attack on the annex? >> i said it was three days. >> that is what john brennan said also been used unequivocably. sometimes someone has to ask the question, if that was true with this presentation by susan rice, before all of america is the fact was it was not a preplanned or premeditated attack. i will not ask you to respond to that the people understand everybody knew that it was free planned and premeditated attack....
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and of course the thing i'm getting -- do you agree, mr. secretary, that it was unequivocally a terrorist attack on the annex? >> when i appeared before this committee three days afterwards i said it was a terrorist attack. >> very good. that's what john brennan said also. he used the word unequivocally. i would have to say we have to understand sometimes someone's going to have to ask the question, if that was true and we knew all that on the sunday this presentation by susan rice, for all of america, said it was -- we have today is that the fact is -- was, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. unquote. i won't even ask you to respond to that but i think it's important that people understand that everybody knew on that sunday that it was a preplanned, premeditated attack. thank you for your tolerance, mr. chairman. >> senator reed. >> thank you, mr. chairman, thank you, mr. secretary, and mr. dempsey. as you point out in your testimony, two attacks, one on the compound, one on the annex. but as the time chart indicates, there see
and of course the thing i'm getting -- do you agree, mr. secretary, that it was unequivocally a terrorist attack on the annex? >> when i appeared before this committee three days afterwards i said it was a terrorist attack. >> very good. that's what john brennan said also. he used the word unequivocally. i would have to say we have to understand sometimes someone's going to have to ask the question, if that was true and we knew all that on the sunday this presentation by susan rice,...